Completely mindless rant from former world traveller now provincial dweller

Tuesday, May 01, 2007

Morally Reprehensible

I am currently experiencing a bit of a ‘moment’ – you know what ever the diametric opposite of an epiphany is.

I got chucked – which is fine. This is not the morally reprehensible situation. The boy I was kissing is very young – and his family was not, shall we say, so happy about the situation. But nevertheless we persevered for nigh on two years.

During this time, I apparently represented the embodiment of pure evil. Now, I have yet to work out just how supporting him emotionally, physically and financially is evil. Or how apologising to all and sundry for his behaviour (generally influenced by illicit substances), or cleaning up after him, finding him a FANTASTIC job, ignoring his foibles, taking him back after drunken rages, and indiscretions could be conceived as evil but – there you have it. EVIL.

Now, during my time within that family I observed some things that could only be described as morally questionable. Relationships conducting whilst the other was still attached, character assassination, underhanded dealings, comments made regarding peoples political persuasion to the detriment of said persons social, political and career standings……………

All very interesting. But none of those behaviours did they see as being evil. Not even a little bit.

Strange.

Which leads me to the next situation.

I have since discovered that the ex boy has been sleeping with his ex girlfriend. In his sisters (my old friends) house. And not only that, the majority of my (our) friendship group knew about it, along with his family. Oh, before he chucked me.

And just decided not to tell me.

So now on two levels I am confused as to what constitutes behaviour that is morally reprehensible.

So apparently I am simply evil – but his behaviour – totally acceptable and the rest of them, well…………………

I thought I would do some research into morality. And apparently the way I have been conducting myself – you know, give out the love, understanding, compassion, turn the other cheek, lets try and make it the best we can – on a different moral level to “If we don’t tell her, it won’t matter and we won’t get in trouble. What she doesn’t know won’t hurt her”.

Have a look here - Morals? What Morals!

And confusion reigns. I really don’t know who to be angry with. His behaviour is not actually that out of character, and I can accept it (morals?), but the behaviour of his family (my friend???) I do not understand. And the rest of the friendship group – I mean really what is that? (One boy actually said –“I thought he was bullshitting me and by the time I found out it was true – well I just decided not to tell you. Did not want to rock the boat.” I am fairly sure that that was a justification of his behaviour for him, and not to help me).

And so to morally reprehensible.


There are things that I do not think are morally offensive that many others would

For example

Taking A class drugs – or any drug for that matter – as long as you are not in control of a vehicle or responsible for small children. After all you are only hurting yourself.

Pornography – hey – I am not saying that all porn is made under circumstances that are conducive to give out the love – but a few dirty stories? Who is that hurting? (an I am going to include any sort of “marital aid” here as well)

Getting drunk in the middle of the day – again with the levels of responsibility and hurting only yourself.

Standing up your beliefs – as long as you have information to back it up.

Whereas things I do find reprehensible (which obviously many do not)

Lying – in any form – especially to protect yourself

Acting with complete disregard of others feelings

Cheating – pretty sure that this one needs no explanation.

Fake justification – don’t say things to make you feel better under the guise of explaining to me or trying to make me feel better.

Lying by omission (can you tell this is one that REALLY winds me up)

Expecting everyone else to carry you and look after you. Stand up for yourself.

Treating people as less than yourself – come on NO ONE is that good.

Casting dispersions on peoples abilities simply because you do not agree with their point of view/sexual orientation/ age group/ choice of shoes.

So world,

Discuss


(I am worried I am over the whole thing and may just have to go and live in a convent for non religious types and carry on my good deeds without having to actually interact with anyone. Ever. Well maybe the postman – a nun can have good shoes can’t she???)

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Moral values are things held to be right or wrong or desirable or undesirable. While morality is sometimes described as 'innate' in humans, the scientific view is that a capacity for morality is genetically determined in us, but the set of moral values is acquired, through example, teaching, and imprinting from parents and society. Different cultures have very different moral value systems. Moral values, along with traditions, laws, behavior patterns, and beliefs, are the defining features of a culture. Moral values are enforced by peer pressure, conscience, disapproval, shunning, and only in some instances by law. They can also be sustained by the concept of 'status', a concept which has many different meanings in different societies.

So as everyone was brought into these worlds by different parents, different value systems and have had different, if any, teachings. Therefore everyone has a different perception on the definition of “morally reprehensible.”

One can understand how upsetting it is finding out that your close friends and friendship group knows something that is detrimental to you, but does not say boo – but on the other hand accepting the betrayer’s infidelity as normal or ok - is very questionable.

Firstly friends – if you are going to tell your friends something that is detrimental you have to have all the information correct first. So when your source of information is very dodgy and unreliable you don’t really know what to believe. For example lying to his friends about the intentions of his rendezvous. Quote ‘well she went home after the races with my best mate and fucked him, so I went off the next weekend to Gundy races and fucked someone else – fair’s fair.’ Unquote. Friends being put in the situation of 1. Should I tell her this information, even though it might be wrong and upset her anyway – then be seen as the ‘bad guy’. 2. Just not tell her, wait for her to find out and then cop it all OR 3. Who should I be loyal too, the friend of 8 years, or his better half? AND 4. Having a serious case of déjà vu. Having been in the same situation before, wanting to say something – but being torn between what happened morally in a past situation, to what is morally happening in the present situation and not having any idea what do to about it!

Very tricky.

Secondly infidelity – He who goes out and intentionally sleeps with someone else whilst he is in a relationship, no matter what his reasons, is in fact “morally reprehensible.” This is speaking from the view point of someone who was once betrayed. However on the other side of the fence, through the eyes of the betrayer, do they see their actions as “morally reprehensible?” OR do they see it as a quick cure for their absent mind and worries?

In conclusion it all goes back to moral values and what has happened in your life to impact the way you implement your beliefs.

Bros said...

Well, anonymous.

That could quite seriously be the best answer I could ever have hoped for.

Thank you for the time and effort you put inot it.

And yes I do understand. I realise that the loyalties in said friendship group lie in a completely different area. And that is the point. I know that to expect any one to give the interesting information to me, especially because of its nature, was probably a little presumptious.


And for the sources of information, I completely agree.

perhaps all this would be easier if we could figure out exactly who is telling which version of the truth.

I really appreciate it.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

I'm currently having problems with partner, she's is amoral. She thinks all matters to do with morality are moot, non issues.

She uses people, has no friends, in fact doesn't even understand the word as most of us do.

When I say uses people I mean, she's interested in them as sources of information, not as people. She can appear very genuine, and very nice, so people give her what she wants, because she appears interested in their lives.

In her defense she claims that "I'm not hurting anyone" and "they give the information willingly" but my issue is that I do actually have quite a moral compass, and it really irks me that she behaves in such a way.

I was pondering this today and decided to throw "morally reprehensible" into google to see what I got back. It's good to know I'm not the only with such issues.

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